Alan Watts: Hey there, Jorben, have you ever thought about the meaning of music?
Jorben Shapeterson: Well, of course, Alan. As a clinical psychologist and professor of psychology, I have studied the psychological and evolutionary roots of music.
Alan Watts: That's all well and good, Jorben, but have you ever just let yourself get lost in the pure experience of music, without analyzing it to death?
Jorben Shapeterson: I see what you're getting at, Alan. But you have to admit, there are some objective truths about music that we can't ignore.
Alan Watts: Oh, I don't deny that. But you also have to acknowledge that the meaning of music is inherently subjective and personal.
Jorben Shapeterson: I agree with you there, Alan. But that doesn't mean we can't study the effects of music on the brain and behavior.
Alan Watts: Of course, Jorben. But the beauty of music is that it transcends all that. It speaks to the soul and connects us to something greater than ourselves.
Jorben Shapeterson: I don't disagree, Alan. But as a clinical psychologist, I have to consider the therapeutic potential of music for mental health.
Alan Watts: And as a philosopher, Jorben, I have to consider the spiritual potential of music for expanding our consciousness and understanding of the universe.
Jorben Shapeterson: Well, I suppose we'll just have to agree to disagree, Alan.
Alan Watts: No problem, Jorben. We can always just put on some good tunes and let the music speak for itself.
Jorben Shapeterson: Agreed, Alan. Let's rock out to some Nietzsche-inspired death metal!
Alan Watts: (laughs) Now you're speaking my language, Jorben!
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